Episode 16 · December 19th, 2022 · 1 hr 1 min

About this Episode


I crave silence - clear and still,
And darkness too.
So complete
My body melds with it
Erasing the line where
Darkness ends and I begin.
I crave nothingness.

I was joined by Monte Wingle as I read my poem, Nirvana, and we discussed thoughts and ideas that came. Also, in the spirit of craving nothingness, we visited True Rest Float Spa to experience their float tank and see how close we could get to nothingness.

True REST Draper

Cover photo by: Lenka Sluneckova

Music: Prelude 2, by Max Richter

USA National Suicide Hotline (voice and text): 988
UK Suicide Hotline: 08006895652

I'd love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed. You can email me at [email protected].

If you're interested, I recently published my first book of poetry which is available at the following place:

The Kings English Book Shop