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    <title>The Poet (delayed) - Episodes Tagged with “Hope”</title>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
    <description>Welcome to The Poet Delayed Podcast!
This podcast is a space for real, honest, and meaningful conversation. I explore poetry, literature, healing, relationships, and the deep importance of connection—not just with others, but also with ourselves. While we talk about the beauty and significance of relationships, we also dive into the vital act of staying true to who we are. It’s easy to lose ourselves in the world and in the connections we cherish, but this space is a reminder that being in relationship with others should never mean abandoning ourselves.
Whether I’m sharing my own journey or talking with guests, my goal is to create a space where stories and experiences bring us closer together. I believe that through sharing, we find understanding, and through connection, we find a sense of belonging.
"May I be I is the only prayer - not may I be great or good or beautiful or wise or strong." - E.E. Cummings
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    <itunes:subtitle>using poetry to discover meaning in life</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Scott Edgar</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>Welcome to The Poet Delayed Podcast!
This podcast is a space for real, honest, and meaningful conversation. I explore poetry, literature, healing, relationships, and the deep importance of connection—not just with others, but also with ourselves. While we talk about the beauty and significance of relationships, we also dive into the vital act of staying true to who we are. It’s easy to lose ourselves in the world and in the connections we cherish, but this space is a reminder that being in relationship with others should never mean abandoning ourselves.
Whether I’m sharing my own journey or talking with guests, my goal is to create a space where stories and experiences bring us closer together. I believe that through sharing, we find understanding, and through connection, we find a sense of belonging.
"May I be I is the only prayer - not may I be great or good or beautiful or wise or strong." - E.E. Cummings
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    <itunes:keywords>Poetry, therapy, trauma, recovery, relationships, connection, authenticity</itunes:keywords>
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      <itunes:name>Scott Edgar</itunes:name>
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  <title>Episode 27: The Capacity of Your Tears</title>
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  <author>Scott Edgar</author>
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  <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
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  <itunes:subtitle>We can't do it all alone. Sometimes, we need to reach out for help and that's not always easy. In fact, in my experience, it's rarely easy. In this episode, I discuss three obstacles that get in my way of asking for help.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:06:42</itunes:duration>
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  <description>We can't do it all alone. Sometimes, we need to reach out for help and that's not always easy. In fact, in my experience, it's rarely easy. In this episode, I discuss three obstacles that get in my way of asking for help.
The Capacity of Your Tears
How many mornings
Are filled with desperate tears
That never sound
In another's ears because 
You feel they are
Hopeless
And only serve to ease 
Your pain for the coming day:
So why worry others when 
The tears will come again
Regardless?
But how many mornings 
Before your pain exceeds 
The capacity of your tears?
I'd love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at poetdelayed@gmail.com.
My first book of poetry, My Mother Sleeps, is availabe for purchase at
The King's English Bookshop (https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22)
and
Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share)
Holding my book at The King's English Bookshop https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg 
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    <![CDATA[<p>We can&#39;t do it all alone. Sometimes, we need to reach out for help and that&#39;s not always easy. In fact, in my experience, it&#39;s rarely easy. In this episode, I discuss three obstacles that get in my way of asking for help.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>The Capacity of Your Tears</strong></p>

<p>How many mornings<br>
Are filled with desperate tears<br>
That never sound<br>
In another&#39;s ears because <br>
You feel they are<br>
Hopeless<br>
And only serve to ease <br>
Your pain for the coming day:<br>
So why worry others when <br>
The tears will come again<br>
Regardless?</p>

<p>But how many mornings <br>
Before your pain exceeds <br>
The capacity of your tears?</p>

<hr>

<p>I&#39;d love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at <strong><a href="mailto:poetdelayed@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">poetdelayed@gmail.com</a>.</strong></p>

<p>My first book of poetry, <em>My Mother Sleeps,</em> is availabe for purchase at</p>

<p><a href="https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22" rel="nofollow">The King&#39;s English Bookshop</a></p>

<p>and</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com</a></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg" alt="Holding my book at The King&#39;s English Bookshop"></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>We can&#39;t do it all alone. Sometimes, we need to reach out for help and that&#39;s not always easy. In fact, in my experience, it&#39;s rarely easy. In this episode, I discuss three obstacles that get in my way of asking for help.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>The Capacity of Your Tears</strong></p>

<p>How many mornings<br>
Are filled with desperate tears<br>
That never sound<br>
In another&#39;s ears because <br>
You feel they are<br>
Hopeless<br>
And only serve to ease <br>
Your pain for the coming day:<br>
So why worry others when <br>
The tears will come again<br>
Regardless?</p>

<p>But how many mornings <br>
Before your pain exceeds <br>
The capacity of your tears?</p>

<hr>

<p>I&#39;d love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at <strong><a href="mailto:poetdelayed@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">poetdelayed@gmail.com</a>.</strong></p>

<p>My first book of poetry, <em>My Mother Sleeps,</em> is availabe for purchase at</p>

<p><a href="https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22" rel="nofollow">The King&#39;s English Bookshop</a></p>

<p>and</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com</a></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg" alt="Holding my book at The King&#39;s English Bookshop"></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 25: Terrible Potential (redux)</title>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2023 05:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>Scott Edgar</author>
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  <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Terrible Potential (redux)</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, I revisit my poem, Terrible Potential, and talk about ways in which it applies to my recovery.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>TERRIBLE POTENTIAL
I see it now
For years I only sensed it
Or saw the dissipating dust tails of its approach
But it filled me with terror 
And there was no cover or protection
So I ran 
As fast as my child stride could take me
Not even knowing what it was – 
Only that it was coming
But that made the fear so much more
In my little mind
So I ran harder 
Until I forgot why I was running –
Only knowing that I couldn’t stop
But I see it now
Its shape is fluid and undefined
And its terrible potential fills my mind
I want to keep running – retreating
But it won’t stop and 
It’s closing the gap and 
It’s more terrible than I ever thought
But its real – I see it now
And I know
    There’s no escape, there never was.
But I want to keep running anyway
Until it overtakes me 
I won’t see it coming; it will just happen and be done
But my insufficient legs refuse to carry me anymore 
So I prostrate myself as an offering 
I know you’re coming, I whisper, 
And I offer myself willingly 
This is not defeat, I reassure myself
Then lower my eyes 
And brace for its fury
But my mind keeps moving – defiantly
It knows truths that my body forgot 
And reminds me: 
You were born with claws
And they’re with you still –
And I remember and feel them
They are deep, but I feel them and they are there
So, I raise my body from the dirt and
My eyes to the distance
It is closer now – the gap disappearing
But not my fear.  My fear is growing 
(broadcast loudly by my beating heart)
But I no longer want to run
Nor offer myself willingly
Instead, I watch it come and I wait – in fear, true
But I wait to receive it
And I steady myself.
I have claws and I feel them
And I will meet it face to face
I have terrible potential too 
I feel it now.
I'd love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at poetdelayed@gmail.com.
My first book of poetry, My Mother Sleeps, is availabe for purchase at
The King's English Bookshop (https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22)
and
Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share)
Holding my book at The King's English Bookshop https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg 
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    <![CDATA[<p>TERRIBLE POTENTIAL</p>

<p>I see it now<br>
For years I only sensed it<br>
Or saw the dissipating dust tails of its approach<br>
But it filled me with terror <br>
And there was no cover or protection<br>
So I ran <br>
As fast as my child stride could take me<br>
Not even knowing what it was – <br>
Only that it was coming<br>
But that made the fear so much more<br>
In my little mind<br>
So I ran harder <br>
Until I forgot why I was running –<br>
Only knowing that I couldn’t stop</p>

<p>But I see it now<br>
Its shape is fluid and undefined<br>
And its terrible potential fills my mind<br>
I want to keep running – retreating<br>
But it won’t stop and <br>
It’s closing the gap and <br>
It’s more terrible than I ever thought<br>
But its real – I see it now<br>
And I know<br>
    There’s no escape, there never was.<br>
But I want to keep running anyway<br>
Until it overtakes me <br>
I won’t see it coming; it will just happen and be done<br>
But my insufficient legs refuse to carry me anymore <br>
So I prostrate myself as an offering </p>

<p>I know you’re coming, I whisper, <br>
And I offer myself willingly </p>

<p>This is not defeat, I reassure myself<br>
Then lower my eyes <br>
And brace for its fury</p>

<p>But my mind keeps moving – defiantly<br>
It knows truths that my body forgot <br>
And reminds me: </p>

<p>You were born with claws<br>
And they’re with you still –</p>

<p>And I remember and feel them<br>
They are deep, but I feel them and they are there<br>
So, I raise my body from the dirt and<br>
My eyes to the distance<br>
It is closer now – the gap disappearing<br>
But not my fear.  My fear is growing <br>
(broadcast loudly by my beating heart)<br>
But I no longer want to run<br>
Nor offer myself willingly<br>
Instead, I watch it come and I wait – in fear, true<br>
But I wait to receive it<br>
And I steady myself.</p>

<p>I have claws and I feel them<br>
And I will meet it face to face<br>
I have terrible potential too <br>
I feel it now.</p>

<hr>

<p>I&#39;d love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at <strong><a href="mailto:poetdelayed@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">poetdelayed@gmail.com</a>.</strong></p>

<p>My first book of poetry, <em>My Mother Sleeps,</em> is availabe for purchase at</p>

<p><a href="https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22" rel="nofollow">The King&#39;s English Bookshop</a></p>

<p>and</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com</a></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg" alt="Holding my book at The King&#39;s English Bookshop"></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>TERRIBLE POTENTIAL</p>

<p>I see it now<br>
For years I only sensed it<br>
Or saw the dissipating dust tails of its approach<br>
But it filled me with terror <br>
And there was no cover or protection<br>
So I ran <br>
As fast as my child stride could take me<br>
Not even knowing what it was – <br>
Only that it was coming<br>
But that made the fear so much more<br>
In my little mind<br>
So I ran harder <br>
Until I forgot why I was running –<br>
Only knowing that I couldn’t stop</p>

<p>But I see it now<br>
Its shape is fluid and undefined<br>
And its terrible potential fills my mind<br>
I want to keep running – retreating<br>
But it won’t stop and <br>
It’s closing the gap and <br>
It’s more terrible than I ever thought<br>
But its real – I see it now<br>
And I know<br>
    There’s no escape, there never was.<br>
But I want to keep running anyway<br>
Until it overtakes me <br>
I won’t see it coming; it will just happen and be done<br>
But my insufficient legs refuse to carry me anymore <br>
So I prostrate myself as an offering </p>

<p>I know you’re coming, I whisper, <br>
And I offer myself willingly </p>

<p>This is not defeat, I reassure myself<br>
Then lower my eyes <br>
And brace for its fury</p>

<p>But my mind keeps moving – defiantly<br>
It knows truths that my body forgot <br>
And reminds me: </p>

<p>You were born with claws<br>
And they’re with you still –</p>

<p>And I remember and feel them<br>
They are deep, but I feel them and they are there<br>
So, I raise my body from the dirt and<br>
My eyes to the distance<br>
It is closer now – the gap disappearing<br>
But not my fear.  My fear is growing <br>
(broadcast loudly by my beating heart)<br>
But I no longer want to run<br>
Nor offer myself willingly<br>
Instead, I watch it come and I wait – in fear, true<br>
But I wait to receive it<br>
And I steady myself.</p>

<p>I have claws and I feel them<br>
And I will meet it face to face<br>
I have terrible potential too <br>
I feel it now.</p>

<hr>

<p>I&#39;d love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at <strong><a href="mailto:poetdelayed@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">poetdelayed@gmail.com</a>.</strong></p>

<p>My first book of poetry, <em>My Mother Sleeps,</em> is availabe for purchase at</p>

<p><a href="https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22" rel="nofollow">The King&#39;s English Bookshop</a></p>

<p>and</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com</a></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg" alt="Holding my book at The King&#39;s English Bookshop"></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 19: Dark Canopy</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 05:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Scott Edgar</author>
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  <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Dark Canopy</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Scott Edgar</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, I’m joined again by Jackie Pack as I read my poem Dark Canopy and we discuss depression.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:40:16</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>It’s safe to assume that we all suffer from bouts of depression at times.  As Neil Diamond sang:
Song sung blue
Everybody knows one
Song sung blue
Every garden grows one.
Me and you are subject to
The blues now and then
"Song Sung Blue," Neil Diamond
And, while more often than not, most of us have been able to take Neil’s advice to “take the blues and make a song [and] sing them out again,” whether metaphorically or literally, some of us have suffered or are suffering through depression so deep and encompassing that song is unable to penetrate and the desire to even sing a song is, at best, like a drop of water on a hot skillet, and, at worst, a stomach turning, repulsive thought, and that is a scary and dangerous place to be.  In those times, it’s especially vital that we are able to notice the signs in ourselves and others and then reach out for help or reach out to help, respectively.  Because, in those times, we can lose the ability to lift ourselves up.  We lose the ability to put a smile on our face.  We lose the ability to have an attitude of gratitude.  And so, we need to be lifted up, and we need to lift up.  In the words of Townes Van Zandt:
If I needed you
Would you come to me?
Would you come to me?
And ease my pain?
If you needed me
I would come to you
I would swim the seas
For to ease you pain
If I Needed You, Townes Van Zandt
In this episode, Jackie Pack and I discuss depression, situational and clinical (major depressive disorder) including what differentiates them.  We discuss ways that we can help ourselves and each other as we pass through those days, weeks, months or years when we feel hopelessness covering us.
"He Ain't Heavy He's My Brother" by Neil Diamond (https://youtu.be/usZtSl8mX08)
"If I Needed You" by Townes Van Zandt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jZMGZ0fG3E)
Dark Canopy
Hopelessness covers me:
Like a forest canopy 
On a moonless night 
        It covers me.
I see no way or path
To deliver myself.
And the darkness:
It fills my eyes.
And they are unable to see
The torchlight
Of rescuers who may approach.
All is black and dead.
Every gleam is only a phantom.
And the only variations in light
Are darker shadows
Waiting to finish me off
        For good.
I'd love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at poetdelayed@gmail.com.
My first book of poetry, My Mother Sleeps, is availabe for purchase at
The King's English Bookshop (https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22)
and
Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share)
Holding my book at The King's English Bookshop https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg Special Guest: Jackie Pack, LCSW, CSAT-S, CMAT.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>poetry, poet, healing from trauma, c-ptsd, recovery from trauma, life change, self discovery, authenticity, creativity</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>It’s safe to assume that we all suffer from bouts of depression at times.  As Neil Diamond sang:</p>

<p>Song sung blue<br>
Everybody knows one</p>

<p>Song sung blue<br>
Every garden grows one.</p>

<p>Me and you are subject to<br>
The blues now and then</p>

<p><em>&quot;Song Sung Blue,&quot;</em> Neil Diamond</p>

<p>And, while more often than not, most of us have been able to take Neil’s advice to “take the blues and make a song [and] sing them out again,” whether metaphorically or literally, some of us have suffered or are suffering through depression so deep and encompassing that song is unable to penetrate and the desire to even sing a song is, at best, like a drop of water on a hot skillet, and, at worst, a stomach turning, repulsive thought, and that is a scary and dangerous place to be.  In those times, it’s especially vital that we are able to notice the signs in ourselves and others and then reach out for help or reach out to help, respectively.  Because, in those times, we can lose the ability to lift ourselves up.  We lose the ability to put a smile on our face.  We lose the ability to have an attitude of gratitude.  And so, we need to be lifted up, and we need to lift up.  In the words of Townes Van Zandt:</p>

<p>If I needed you<br>
Would you come to me?<br>
Would you come to me?<br>
And ease my pain?</p>

<p>If you needed me<br>
I would come to you<br>
I would swim the seas<br>
For to ease you pain</p>

<p><em>If I Needed You,</em> Townes Van Zandt</p>

<p>In this episode, Jackie Pack and I discuss depression, situational and clinical (major depressive disorder) including what differentiates them.  We discuss ways that we can help ourselves and each other as we pass through those days, weeks, months or years when we feel hopelessness covering us.</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/usZtSl8mX08" rel="nofollow">&quot;He Ain&#39;t Heavy He&#39;s My Brother&quot; by Neil Diamond</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jZMGZ0fG3E" rel="nofollow">&quot;If I Needed You&quot; by Townes Van Zandt</a></p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Dark Canopy</strong></p>

<p>Hopelessness covers me:<br>
Like a forest canopy <br>
On a moonless night <br>
        It covers me.<br>
I see no way or path<br>
To deliver myself.<br>
And the darkness:<br>
It fills my eyes.<br>
And they are unable to see<br>
The torchlight<br>
Of rescuers who may approach.<br>
All is black and dead.<br>
Every gleam is only a phantom.<br>
And the only variations in light<br>
Are darker shadows<br>
Waiting to finish me off<br>
        For good.</p>

<hr>

<p>I&#39;d love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at <strong><a href="mailto:poetdelayed@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">poetdelayed@gmail.com</a>.</strong></p>

<p>My first book of poetry, <em>My Mother Sleeps,</em> is availabe for purchase at</p>

<p><a href="https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22" rel="nofollow">The King&#39;s English Bookshop</a></p>

<p>and</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com</a></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg" alt="Holding my book at The King&#39;s English Bookshop"></p><p>Special Guest: Jackie Pack, LCSW, CSAT-S, CMAT.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>It’s safe to assume that we all suffer from bouts of depression at times.  As Neil Diamond sang:</p>

<p>Song sung blue<br>
Everybody knows one</p>

<p>Song sung blue<br>
Every garden grows one.</p>

<p>Me and you are subject to<br>
The blues now and then</p>

<p><em>&quot;Song Sung Blue,&quot;</em> Neil Diamond</p>

<p>And, while more often than not, most of us have been able to take Neil’s advice to “take the blues and make a song [and] sing them out again,” whether metaphorically or literally, some of us have suffered or are suffering through depression so deep and encompassing that song is unable to penetrate and the desire to even sing a song is, at best, like a drop of water on a hot skillet, and, at worst, a stomach turning, repulsive thought, and that is a scary and dangerous place to be.  In those times, it’s especially vital that we are able to notice the signs in ourselves and others and then reach out for help or reach out to help, respectively.  Because, in those times, we can lose the ability to lift ourselves up.  We lose the ability to put a smile on our face.  We lose the ability to have an attitude of gratitude.  And so, we need to be lifted up, and we need to lift up.  In the words of Townes Van Zandt:</p>

<p>If I needed you<br>
Would you come to me?<br>
Would you come to me?<br>
And ease my pain?</p>

<p>If you needed me<br>
I would come to you<br>
I would swim the seas<br>
For to ease you pain</p>

<p><em>If I Needed You,</em> Townes Van Zandt</p>

<p>In this episode, Jackie Pack and I discuss depression, situational and clinical (major depressive disorder) including what differentiates them.  We discuss ways that we can help ourselves and each other as we pass through those days, weeks, months or years when we feel hopelessness covering us.</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/usZtSl8mX08" rel="nofollow">&quot;He Ain&#39;t Heavy He&#39;s My Brother&quot; by Neil Diamond</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jZMGZ0fG3E" rel="nofollow">&quot;If I Needed You&quot; by Townes Van Zandt</a></p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Dark Canopy</strong></p>

<p>Hopelessness covers me:<br>
Like a forest canopy <br>
On a moonless night <br>
        It covers me.<br>
I see no way or path<br>
To deliver myself.<br>
And the darkness:<br>
It fills my eyes.<br>
And they are unable to see<br>
The torchlight<br>
Of rescuers who may approach.<br>
All is black and dead.<br>
Every gleam is only a phantom.<br>
And the only variations in light<br>
Are darker shadows<br>
Waiting to finish me off<br>
        For good.</p>

<hr>

<p>I&#39;d love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed.  You can email me at <strong><a href="mailto:poetdelayed@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">poetdelayed@gmail.com</a>.</strong></p>

<p>My first book of poetry, <em>My Mother Sleeps,</em> is availabe for purchase at</p>

<p><a href="https://www.kingsenglish.com/search/author/%22Edgar%2C%20Scott%20R.%22" rel="nofollow">The King&#39;s English Bookshop</a></p>

<p>and</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Scott-R.-Edgar/e/B0B2ZR7W41%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com</a></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/b/b1c4f464-ff8b-4fd1-8632-8c458a232c1a/olfoSxre.jpeg" alt="Holding my book at The King&#39;s English Bookshop"></p><p>Special Guest: Jackie Pack, LCSW, CSAT-S, CMAT.</p>]]>
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