They Grew Out Of Thy Passions

Episode 80 · May 12th, 2026 · 31 mins 53 secs

About this Episode

In the fire’s heat
The log is transformed but does
Not become the fire

What if the goal isn’t to destroy the fire within us, but to learn how to live with it?

This episode explores passion, shame, anger, desire, transformation, and the difference between purification and integration. Not becoming less. Not cutting parts of ourselves away. But learning how to carry what burns inside us without letting it consume us.

Drawing from Nietzsche, Will and Ariel Durant, personal experience, and poetry, this episode reflects on the possibility that our virtues may grow out of the very things we once feared in ourselves.


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["The Ghost of a Beating Heart", "My Mother Sleeps" and "Haiku Village"](My books of poetry.)